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With My Mind on My Money and My Money on My Mind
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I’ve been noticing a disturbing phenomenon in client SEO land. Now, I’m not going to call out any Phoenix SEO companies specifically, but if you’re reading this, you probably know who you are.
Some of the people in the industry that I pegged as pure BS artists are landing clients faster than those with the skills that SHOULD pay the bills. And it is not by virtue of their ability to rank a site or run an advertising campaign, it’s their ability to BS clients that’s getting them the work.
Don’t get me wrong, I respect your hustle Mr. Snake Oil. You make more calls, kiss more ass, go to more “networking” events, and hand out more business cards. You work for yours. But where are your clients’ sites when you’re done with them?
I’ve been on the frontlines recently. Pushing out proposals like a madman, researching people’s sites, and checking out the work left behind by previous SEO firms. What I see, quite frankly, embarasses me. Mostly because I am getting lumped in with these guys. Then I get the client’s sob story about their previous experience. It usually sounds something like this:
“They were great. We had bi-weekly phone meetings, we used this neat little tool to track our progress, I got reports with graphs in them, and I even rank number one for “Arizona Mortgage Refinancing Specialist Ahwatukee AZ”. But I just can’t afford the 8k a month retainer anymore“.
Or worse, this:
“They were terrible. I had a really bad experience with [insert well known company] who promised me rankings. They charged my 8k a month, and even had the gall to send more invoices when I asked for even the smallest changes“.
My interpretation of both scenarios leads to the same conclusion.
Scenario 1 – You’re a good bullshitter. You made your client believe they were getting a value from your shoddy service, overcharged, and dried up the well.
Scenario 2 – You’re a good bullshitter. You made your client believe they were going to get a value for your shoddy service, overcharged, and scared a client from using a better company’s web marketing services down the road.
Either way, I am seeing shoddy work from previous firms and agencies. They’re leaving huge holes in their campaigns. I’m proposing lower prices than companies were used to paying their old crappy vendors. I’m seeing low hanging fruit and easy wins for my potential clients. And I am still having to hustle way more than I ever thought I would have to, just to save a potential client back to the good side of the force. The fish that normally would be jumping in the boat, are still on the edge.
In cases like these, where clients have been burned, it doesn’t matter that I have rankings and case studies to prove my ability. It doesn’t matter that I have ringing endorsements from referrals. It doesn’t matter that I have no problem contracting out clauses or adding performance clauses to mitigate cost risk. People just have a harder time trusting SEO companies in general, because of the BS artists who left trash in their wake.
Part of me wishes I had a better line of BS. Maybe I should have gone to more events to glad hand realtors, lawyers, and loan sharks. Or maybe worked on my fake smiles a little more. Tried to kiss more ass…
But that part of me IS BS. I’m actually happy with the being a “no bullshit” kind of guy, even if I am not getting as many clients as more polished sales persons with less skill. It’s just a shame that the pool of potential clients out there has been tarnished by slicksters who are all style, and little substance.
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David Temple Says:
February 10th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
So sad but true. You my man could never be a BSer, it is not your style so you would suck at it. Kiss ass? Never! Kick ass and take names, now that’s more up your alley.
Nick Norris Says:
February 11th, 2009 at 10:29 am
This is so true. Here’s a shimmer of hope though. When I used to sell B2B, the quality of jobs would go up with honesty. People trust integrity, and there’s just something that you can’t trust with a lot of these hustle and hook type companies/salespeople. I worked with one dude who was a clear snake, and his numbers showed it, I was honest, and I beat him out every month.
Do you think you’d be where you are today if you weren’t honest? In the long-term, you will be able to use longevity and referrals to do whatever you want. You have been doing this longer than anyone I know. You can go to every seminar, meeting, social, or sock-hop on the planet, but if you can’t substantiate the jargon, then everything will fall apart. These dudes use client ignorance to their advantage, and that’s the same thing as taking advantage of your clients, and once they find out… you’re gone for good.. These clients are not stupid, if they were, they would not pay a ton of cash for an SEO every month.
Sorry for the rant… But damn.. I know what you’re saying.
Dominic Anderton Says:
February 11th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Come on, that’s outrageous!…
8k a month, what for, for a long-tail keyword optimization that even a bum could rank for?? lol
James Windrow Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Even great agencies have bad seeds working for them. Ive seen it before, bring in someone with a great resume and loads of experience and after 6 months you realize its all BS. I wish it wasnt so but unfortunately it is.
Have you ever considered freelancing to the agencies?
Sally Strebel Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Chris,
I couldn’t have said it better myself. Many “quick for a buck” salesmen offer placement in the top 40 for outrageous rates and spend little time researching and caring for their client. Then there’s you and Josh. You both produce results and are honest about time frames and outcomes. I think you need to raise your rates because what you are selling is valuable considering the “snake oil” competition.
PS- I talked with Dave Wallace and recommended that the 6 of us have dinner soon. Maybe next weekend?
Chris Hooley Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
I’m down for dinner. Always enjoy hanging out with you and Josh, and David and Irma. Good people :-)